Basiclly, for one I think im gonna say the one everybody will agree on,
JUST HAVE NORMAL HDMI, I mean the Raspberry Pi 5 already erased
the audio socket on the side of the device, so why not bring HDMI back?

Like I remember I had to try to find a converter for the pi 4 AGAIN
cause the original one BROKE, like even when I was not even near
the Raspberry Pi 4, it would just keep cutting out.

Here's the things that some people may not agree on :p
For example, to solve the voltage sag problem of the RPI4 and
RPI5, they could have something that will keep a charge, a very small
one for about like 30 seconds or 1 minute, then the voltage sag problems won't really
happen as much.

For the ram, honestly we don't specficlly need the 16GB ram model,
cause nobody really needs it... right?
(I mean for example, ZRAM can get the Raspberry Pi 5 8GB to act
like a 10GB of ram model or at least something close.)

(I don't got a solution idea for the overheating stuff lol)

What I'm thinking is this thread will be locked in 5...4...3.......

wildfire wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 25, 2026 10:18 pm

What I'm thinking is this thread will be locked in 5...4...3.......

Yup. Then deleted. As these threads always get.

And I expect that the features for the next Pi generation are already locked down anyway.

This is a idea to solve the problems of the Raspberry Pi 4 & 5.
Not saying the Raspberry Pi Ltd won't have their own solution, just
My own idea to the issues.

MartenMario64 wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 25, 2026 10:26 pm

This is a idea to solve the problems of the Raspberry Pi 4 & 5.

What problems?

Not saying the Raspberry Pi Foundation won't have their own solution, just
My own idea to the issues.

What does the foundation have to do with it?

wildfire wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 25, 2026 10:33 pm

MartenMario64 wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 25, 2026 10:26 pm

This is a idea to solve the problems of the Raspberry Pi 4 & 5.

What problems?

Not saying the Raspberry Pi Foundation won't have their own solution, just
My own idea to the issues.

What does the foundation have to do with it?

Problems like the ones I first mentioned in the post, they basiclly raise
the price a lot due to the fact you have to buy quite a bit more than just the pi and some fan system.

(Also, as for the foundation part that is a mistake, I was meant to say ltd.)

MartenMario64 wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 25, 2026 9:18 pm

(I don't got a solution idea for the overheating stuff lol)

What overheating stuff? The SoC throttles down before it gets hot enough to be damaged.

And it's Raspberry Pi Ltd who design and make the Pi not the Foundation.

thagrol wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 25, 2026 10:43 pm

MartenMario64 wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 25, 2026 9:18 pm

(I don't got a solution idea for the overheating stuff lol)

What overheating stuff? The SoC throttles down before it gets hot enough to be damaged.

And it's Raspberry Pi Ltd who design and make the Pi not the Foundation.

It would still slow down very hard, once it starts throttling. (also... I mean just get a fan
for the Raspberry Pi 5.)

MartenMario64 wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 25, 2026 10:52 pm

thagrol wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 25, 2026 10:43 pm

MartenMario64 wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 25, 2026 9:18 pm

(I don't got a solution idea for the overheating stuff lol)

What overheating stuff? The SoC throttles down before it gets hot enough to be damaged.

And it's Raspberry Pi Ltd who design and make the Pi not the Foundation.

It would still slow down very hard, once it starts throttling. (also... I mean just get a fan
for the Raspberry Pi 5.)

You mean like https://www.raspberrypi.com/products/active-cooler/ and (for 4B) https://www.raspberrypi.com/products/ra ... -case-fan/

So what you're suggesting is to force every Pi buyer to pay extra for hardware whether they need it or not with the additional (great business ideas) of restricting amount of RAM available.

I'm in I'll invest £0.01 for 95% of your business.

MartenMario64 wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 25, 2026 9:18 pm

Basiclly, for one I think im gonna say the one everybody will agree on,
JUST HAVE NORMAL HDMI, I mean the Raspberry Pi 5 already erased
the audio socket on the side of the device, so why not bring HDMI back?

All Pis have HDMI output. Now, I do know what you mean... You want a full-sized HDMI connector instead of the micro-HDMI found on the Pi4 and Pi5 class systems. Are you willing to give up having two HDMI outputs to get that? That's what it would take in order to get have a single, large, HDMI port.

For another solution... I understand that there are cases made that have internal cabling to connect the Pis micro-HDMI ports to full-sized HDMI connectors exposed by the case. If you're having that much trouble with the micro-HDMI ports, why not get yourself such a case (or cases), as needed?

for systems where people need füll size HDMI (for some unkown reason) one can use i.e. https://www.waveshare.com/product/raspb ... m?___SID=U

aBUGSworstnightmare wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 26, 2026 4:57 am

for systems where people need füll size HDMI (for some unkown reason) one can use i.e. https://www.waveshare.com/product/raspb ... m?___SID=U

Do you know if the USB2 data lines on the USB-C power connector of the Pi are routed through to the USB-C connector on the adapter board. For example, does rpiboot and do device-mode Linux gadgets still work with the adapter connected?

MartenMario64 wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 25, 2026 9:18 pm

Basiclly, for one I think im gonna say the one everybody will agree on,
JUST HAVE NORMAL HDMI, I mean the Raspberry Pi 5 already erased
the audio socket on the side of the device, so why not bring HDMI back?

Like I remember I had to try to find a converter for the pi 4 AGAIN
cause the original one BROKE, like even when I was not even near
the Raspberry Pi 4, it would just keep cutting out.

Here's the things that some people may not agree on :p
For example, to solve the voltage sag problem of the RPI4 and
RPI5, they could have something that will keep a charge, a very small
one for about like 30 seconds or 1 minute, then the voltage sag problems won't really
happen as much.

For the ram, honestly we don't specficlly need the 16GB ram model,
cause nobody really needs it... right?
(I mean for example, ZRAM can get the Raspberry Pi 5 8GB to act
like a 10GB of ram model or at least something close.)

(I don't got a solution idea for the overheating stuff lol)

Why did you buy a Pi5 then if the Pi4 was already a problem for you?
Get a laptop and put Linux on it and use your Pis headless, then no such complaining or future speccing.
Or get an SBC that has normal HDMI connectors. There are several, most also better specs than Pi5 even before Pi5 was on the market.

redvli wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 26, 2026 6:09 am

MartenMario64 wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 25, 2026 9:18 pm

Basiclly, for one I think im gonna say the one everybody will agree on,
JUST HAVE NORMAL HDMI, I mean the Raspberry Pi 5 already erased
the audio socket on the side of the device, so why not bring HDMI back?

Like I remember I had to try to find a converter for the pi 4 AGAIN
cause the original one BROKE, like even when I was not even near
the Raspberry Pi 4, it would just keep cutting out.

Here's the things that some people may not agree on :p
For example, to solve the voltage sag problem of the RPI4 and
RPI5, they could have something that will keep a charge, a very small
one for about like 30 seconds or 1 minute, then the voltage sag problems won't really
happen as much.

For the ram, honestly we don't specficlly need the 16GB ram model,
cause nobody really needs it... right?
(I mean for example, ZRAM can get the Raspberry Pi 5 8GB to act
like a 10GB of ram model or at least something close.)

(I don't got a solution idea for the overheating stuff lol)

Why did you buy a Pi5 then if the Pi4 was already a problem for you?
Get a laptop and put Linux on it and use your Pis headless, then no such complaining or future speccing.
Or get an SBC that has normal HDMI connectors. There are several, most also better specs than Pi5 even before Pi5 was on the market.

first of all i have a official power adapter, i have a pironman 5,
and i have a 8gb model, its a great time, but thats not everybody, and thats why im talking about this.

W. H. Heydt wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 26, 2026 3:51 am

MartenMario64 wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 25, 2026 9:18 pm

Basiclly, for one I think im gonna say the one everybody will agree on,
JUST HAVE NORMAL HDMI, I mean the Raspberry Pi 5 already erased
the audio socket on the side of the device, so why not bring HDMI back?

All Pis have HDMI output. Now, I do know what you mean... You want a full-sized HDMI connector instead of the micro-HDMI found on the Pi4 and Pi5 class systems. Are you willing to give up having two HDMI outputs to get that? That's what it would take in order to get have a single, large, HDMI port.

For another solution... I understand that there are cases made that have internal cabling to connect the Pis micro-HDMI ports to full-sized HDMI connectors exposed by the case. If you're having that much trouble with the micro-HDMI ports, why not get yourself such a case (or cases), as needed?

Also, Theres a reason I pointed out the audio socket...
just have two. two hdmi sockets, one that is where the audio socket once was.

I expect regular sized HDMI sockets could be fitted vertically to the board, & take up no more room - & I still miss the headphone socket too.

MartenMario64 wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 26, 2026 7:58 am

W. H. Heydt wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 26, 2026 3:51 am

MartenMario64 wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 25, 2026 9:18 pm

Basiclly, for one I think im gonna say the one everybody will agree on,
JUST HAVE NORMAL HDMI, I mean the Raspberry Pi 5 already erased
the audio socket on the side of the device, so why not bring HDMI back?

All Pis have HDMI output. Now, I do know what you mean... You want a full-sized HDMI connector instead of the micro-HDMI found on the Pi4 and Pi5 class systems. Are you willing to give up having two HDMI outputs to get that? That's what it would take in order to get have a single, large, HDMI port.

For another solution... I understand that there are cases made that have internal cabling to connect the Pis micro-HDMI ports to full-sized HDMI connectors exposed by the case. If you're having that much trouble with the micro-HDMI ports, why not get yourself such a case (or cases), as needed?

Also, Theres a reason I pointed out the audio socket...
just have two. two hdmi sockets, one that is where the audio socket once was.

So where would you put the CSI/DSI ports? Or would you give up one of them?

And where would you route the PCB traces?

Is the RP1 even able to do audio the same way older models did?

MartenMario64 wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 26, 2026 7:57 am

redvli wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 26, 2026 6:09 am

Why did you buy a Pi5 then if the Pi4 was already a problem for you?
Get a laptop and put Linux on it and use your Pis headless, then no such complaining or future speccing.
Or get an SBC that has normal HDMI connectors. There are several, most also better specs than Pi5 even before Pi5 was on the market.

first of all i have a official power adapter, i have a pironman 5,
and i have a 8gb model, its a great time, but thats not everybody, and thats why im talking about this.

I also have 2 'official' power adapters.
1 Pi4 (the 5V/3A), but it still is not good enough to power my RPi4-8GB with 1TB Samsung SSD, although according to specs and my calculations, it should work. But occasional USB-stack crash, so a made own/external powertree in the end to get it running stable for months and longer.
1 Pi5 (the 27W) but I have no Pi5 as I can do bill of material (BOM) calculations and I am not fooling myself. And I know Linux much longer then the Pi, also know ARM SoCs/platforms much longer then the Pi. So no Pi5 for me, I count 43 SBC vendors (see Armbian website), many have zero updates after dumping HW on the market, but also many are more attractive HW wise and cheaper if you look at the total BOM and run normal Linux nowadays.
Requesting future specs here never works, 80% is industry customers, they bring in the money mostly. Not you, you will buy add-ons at waveshare and so on. I have 2 SBC's with nice good metal case provided by the vendor itself. Both were there before Pi5 and don't need a fan as the SoC is made in more advanced silicon process. Same as smartphones. So you bought the wrong things is my conclusion. Distributed responsibility, not 1 supplier, you build your own computer, you need to solve issues yourself. Same as is the case for decades when building PC's.

Why stick with old fashioned HDMI (especially them large connectors, so out of place on small devices).
Should just go ib]mDP [/i](mini Display Port), then we can daisychain my monitors like I do on my PC, one cable, multiple monitors
, extra room.
We all know everyone wants that (I can assume, just like you assumed it for large HDMI)

Sound, we already have sound output, 2x HDMI sound outputs AND then we can buy a small cheap USB to 3.5" dongle for the old fashioned people that don't use Bluetooth sound output (maybe improve the BT Audio standards ? to be honest I don't even know what the Pi provides here)

But one everybody will agree on we need to scrap the HDMI, Jacks and large USB Type A connectors, make them all capable USB-C connectors.
We'll get video out, USB Audio out, and of cause standard USB too, hell scrap the Ethernet too, just do that over the USB-C connector. ok maybe not that far as we can all agree we want 2.5Gbit/10Gbit wired ethernet.

I haven't experienced issues with...

Micro hdmi...
Voltage sag...
Too much ram...
Overheating, l just fit a fan if needed...

I run multiple pi4s and pi5s 24/7 with none of these 'issues'

gordon77 wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 26, 2026 10:16 am

I haven't experienced issues with...

Micro hdmi...
Voltage sag...
Too much ram...
Overheating, l just fit a fan if needed...

I run multiple pi4s and pi5s 24/7 with none of these 'issues'

shush! , that's not what the social media sites want to tell us...

bensimmo wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 26, 2026 9:10 am

AND then we can buy a small cheap USB to 3.5" dongle for the old fashioned people that don't use Bluetooth sound output (maybe improve the BT Audio standards ? to be honest I don't even know what the Pi provides here)

I don't know any that uses a 3.5 inch jack for audio

thagrol wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 26, 2026 12:31 pm

bensimmo wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 26, 2026 9:10 am

AND then we can buy a small cheap USB to 3.5" dongle for the old fashioned people that don't use Bluetooth sound output (maybe improve the BT Audio standards ? to be honest I don't even know what the Pi provides here)

I don't know any that uses a 3.5 inch jack for audio

Not jack. Hard drives. Like the Floppotron uses (in addition to floppy drives and scanners)